Katie Couric and Matt Lauer.
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Lower off. Katie Couric revealed the place she stands with former As we speak cohost Matt Lauer after he was fired in 2017 amid sexual harassment allegations.

“We now have no relationship,” the 64-year-old journalist mentioned on the NBC morning present on Tuesday, October 19, whereas discussing her upcoming memoir, Going There, including that the scandal was “actually, actually laborious and it took me a very long time to course of what was occurring.”

Her ebook, which hits cabinets later this month, options textual content messages she exchanged with Lauer, 63, amid the fallout of his firing. “I feel I used these as a result of I assumed they have been very illustrative of how our relationship devolved and finally deteriorated,” Couric defined. “I assumed that was a robust approach to … actually let the reader into my thought course of and as I obtained an increasing number of data, the way it was more durable and more durable for me to reconcile these two sides [of him].”

When claims about Lauer’s office habits emerged, the Finest Recommendation I Ever Bought creator mentioned she struggled to acknowledge her longtime coanchor.

“The facet of Matt I knew was the facet of Matt I feel you all knew. He was variety, beneficiant, thoughtful, a very good colleague,” the previous 60 Minutes correspondent instructed As we speak. “As I obtained extra data and realized extra about what was occurring behind the scenes. After which I did a few of my very own reporting, talked to individuals, tried to excavate what had been occurring. It was actually devastating and in addition disgusting.”

Couric continued, “I feel what I spotted is that there was a facet of Matt I by no means actually knew. I attempted to grasp why he behaved the best way he did, and why he was so reckless, and callous, and truthfully abusive to different girls.”

Lauer was axed from the community in November 2017 after a feminine colleague accused him of inappropriate sexual habits whereas masking the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, three years prior. The scandal continued to make headlines in 2019 when Ronan Farrow printed Catch and Kill and spoke with Lauer’s accuser, Brooke Nevils. (The New York native, for his half, has denied Nevils’ accusations and beforehand slammed Farrow’s reporting in a prolonged op-ed.)

In Could 2018, Couric famous that the aftermath of the controversy was “very painful” for her and for others who had labored with Lauer previously. “I don’t know the total extent of all these items occurred,” she instructed Wendy Williams on the time. “However I can solely discuss my private expertise and I used to be at all times handled respectfully and appropriately.”

The next yr, the Virginia native referred to as for “extra girls in management positions in journalism and broadcast information” to assist make the trade a safer and extra welcoming place.

“Issues don’t actually change except you have got a girl with actual authority and decision-making alternatives,” she instructed Selection in November 2019. “I actually do imagine that the environment of an organization and the requirements, all of them come from the highest.”

Lauer, for his half, has been laying low since leaving NBC, however a supply solely instructed Us Weekly in June 2020 that he was fascinated about “doing a giant TV interview” to share his facet of the story.

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